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Why I Don’t Use LendingMatch To Invest With Lending Club

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Peer-to-peer lending site LendingClub has a feature called LendingMatch that allows you build a portfolio of multiple notes simply by choosing a desired risk profile. Even though I’ve funded over 30 loans, I never touch the thing. Now, I think in general LC does a decent job rating their loans from A1-A5, B1-B5, all the way to G5. But sometimes I just don’t agree with their assessments, and other times I have a more personal objection to the loan. Today, I found an example that fit both.

This loan passed through all of my usual manual filters. A/B grade only, 714+ credit score, debt-to-income ratio < 10%, and zero delinquencies within last two years. The assigned grade was A5, which is quite good overall.

But then I read the details. (If you’re a member, it’s loan #411092.) His reported gross income is $26,000 per year. He’s only been at his current job for only one year. He has been delinquent on accounts before, but last time was over 4 years ago. He has about $18,000 in credit card debt currently. He has 70% of his annual income as debt? To me, that’s like someone making $100k a year before taxes having $70,000 of consumer debt. Seems like quite a burden.

Already skeptical, I then read the loan description. Here it is, after I stripped out what I felt was not important:

This loan will be used to consolidate the remaining balance on two credit card balances and for home improvement. Looking to payoff some credit card debt and add a sunroom to my home. I am coming to the lending club community to help me build a nice sunroom to enjoy a cold glass of iced tea.

Honestly, I didn’t even know what a sunroom was until I looked it up. According to this site, a small 80 sq. ft. sunroom would cost from $5,000 to $15,000. He already has 70% of his gross annual income as debt, and he wants to add another $5,000 to it? That would result in a debt-to-annual income ratio of 90%.

I like the idea of helping people pay down their credit card debt by lowering their interest and consolidating into one payment. But this guy seems to really like being in debt. Now, that’s his choice, but I don’t like the idea of supporting it. Am I alone in thinking this way? I’m thinking I might not be, as his loan request didn’t fund the first time.

You can read about the other details of my LendingClub portfolio here. My annualized return after fees so far is 8.8%.

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Reader Questions: Lending Club Peer-to-Peer Lending Q&A

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Back in December, I wrote a detailed review of the “new” LendingClub, a site which lets individuals lend money directly to other individuals and earn 7-20% interest (depending on credit scores). Many of you sent additional questions about LendingClub, and Rob Garcia, Director of Product Strategy, was gracious enough to answer them. I want to thank Rob for his time and candidness, as some of the questions were quite blunt. 🙂

Some of my readers are concerned about your company being in its early stages. What would happen if Lending Club goes bankrupt? What would happen to our notes in that scenario? Would we be unsecured creditors of LC?
Yes the notes are unsecured obligations of Lending Club. That being said, we’ve structured the program in a way that makes it as “bankruptcy remote” as possible: all lender funds are kept in a trust account that is not part of Lending Club assets, and therefore would be off-limit to other Lending Club’s creditors. We also have a back-up servicing agreement in place with Portfolio Financial Servicing Corporation (www.pfsc.com), one of the largest loan servicer in the country, who will service the loans should Lending Club be unable to do so.

Any insight to why the income and net worth requirements are somewhat restrictive for lenders?
This comes from state regulations; most states impose financial eligibility requirements for clearing new types of securities offerings. We are hoping that some of these requirements will be lifted as the program continues to build its track record. As pointed out in a recent Javelin study, the average annual return for Lending Club lenders has been 9.05% over the last 18 months, with little volatility. If we continue showing that sort of track record over a long period of time, we hoping the financial eligibility requirements will become unnecessary.

Do you expect to add more eligible states soon?
Yes. We are actively pursuing registration in states where the offering has not yet been cleared. Note that residents of most states who haven’t been cleared for the main offering can already buy notes on the Note Trading Platform from FOLIOfn.

Can I just take the current $25 bonus and run? [See below]
You certainly can, although we’d love you to try Lending Club.

Is there plans to fund via PayPal or some other more instant form of funding? I saw a loan I wanted last week, but had to wait 4 days for my bank deposit to clear and missed it.
We do offer this capability, but only to lenders who do not have a linked bank account. Once a bank account has been linked, it is a lot more cost-efficiently (although admittedly longer) to move funds by ACH.

Any plans to pay interest on idle cash?
Not immediately. Believe it or not, there are lots of regulatory challenges for a non-“deposit taking institution” like Lending Club (basically not a bank) to pay interests on idle funds. It is in our interest to do so to attract more lenders, so we are looking for a way around (along the same vein as what PayPal is doing) and are confident it will come through.

I have several old loans from Lending Club still in repayment. However, after the new regulations, I am no longer eligible to lend due to both my state of residency and income. Any idea what might happen to my loans? I don’t want to ask Lending Club in case they close my account…
No worries; we’re not closing anybody’s account! All “old” loans continue to be serviced and all lenders get their monthly payments credited to their account irrespective of their state of residence. The new restrictions only restrict the ability to buy new notes.

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Follow-up Updates and Comments
Here is a excerpt from the Executive Summary of the noted Javelin study, which notes both pros and cons:

If an individual had invested $10,000 on June 1st, 2007 in a representative group of loans on the site, the value of that individual’s account at Lending Club would have grown to $11,594 by November 2008 (assuming reinvestment of payments received). That return would have outpaced other common investments or indexes such as the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index ($6,289), the Nasdaq Composite Index ($6,605), 1-year CDs ($10,678) and 6-month Treasury bills ($10,501). This comparison factors in Lending Club’s 1% service charge but does not include fees and other transaction costs for the other investments. This comparison does not factor in differences in liquidity between Lending Club notes and the other investments or indexes. Notably, Lending Club notes can only be sold through the Note Trading Platform that was made available recently (on October 14, 2008) and there is no assurance that liquidity will develop on that platform.

Over the last few months, we have seen credit card companies canceling inactive cards, reducing credit limits, and raising rates on lots of borrowers. As a result, I have definitely seen a rise in loan volume at LendingClub.

As a lender, I’ve tried to take advantage by slowly investing in lots of small $25 loans to folks with squeaky-clean credit histories and good job histories, and now have about $1,000 lent out. I understand there is risk involved, and will report my results. I do wish the PayPal funding option was always available, as the convenience would be great. Also, another reader pointed out that if they accepted PayPal, one could fund with a credit card for the rewards.

If you are interested in lending, you can still use this special $25 lender sign-up link to get a free $25 to try it out with no future obligation. There is no credit check and you don’t have to deposit anything. After you are approved, the $25 should show up in your account balance, and you can lend it out immediately.

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Lending Club P2P: Review of New Post-SEC Changes

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Now that LendingClub has finished their SEC filing and is one of the only P2P lenders currently operating (everyone else either shut down or is in an SEC quiet period), let’s take a look at some of the changes. You are now officially “investing” in notes offered by LendingClub, as opposed to directly “lending” to private individuals. The bad news is that this also means some new restrictions that have been added. The good news that now these notes can be traded on a secondary market, offering liquidity for loans that used to be a 3-year commitment.

Borrowers

I have always found borrowing from LendingClub to be very straightforward to borrowers. You get a 3-year, unsecured loan at a fixed rate. If you qualify (see below), you simply submit an free application and they tell you what rate you get. Then you can simply compare this rate with your other options – credit cards, home equity loans, whatever – before deciding if you want to attempt a listing. However, which the current credit conditions, remember that credit cards can only guarantee 6-12 months of a low rate, and home equity loans have gotten a lot more strict (and also put your house at risk).

Eligibility. However, be aware LC is only seeking “prime” borrowers. Borrowers must be a US citizen or permanent resident, and at least 18 years old with a valid bank account and a valid Social Security number. You can’t be from the following 8 States: Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Maine, Nebraska, North Carolina, North Dakota, and Tennessee. You have to have good-to-excellent credit in addition to satisfying additional requirements. From their FAQ:

In order to qualify for listing a loan request, you will need a FICO score of at least 660 with a debt-to-income ratio (excluding mortgage) below 25%. In addition, your credit history must show that you are a responsible borrower:

* at least 1 year of credit history, showing no current delinquencies, recent bankruptcies (7 years), open tax liens, charge-offs or collections account in the past 12 months,
* no more than 10 inquiries on your credit report in the last 6 months,
* a revolving credit utilization of less than 100%, and
* more than 3 accounts in your credit report, of which more than 2 are currently open.

Put together, these minimums are actually relatively strict. However, as a lender I would say that crafting a convincing loan listing showing your income, expenses, and exactly how you plan to pay off the loan is still very critical to get your loan funded.

Fees. Borrowers pay an upfront fee that is a percentage of the loan amount. The fee ranges from 0.75% to 3.50% based on the credit grade given.

Lenders

The interest rates charged by LendingClub currently vary from 7.37% to 20.11% (6.69 to 19.37% after fees) based on the credit grade assigned by LC after reviewing the borrower’s overall profile. There is no eBay-like bidding here. You see the rate, you read the listing and credit grade, and you decide either to fund it or not. Remember the minimum requirements above. The rates are higher than before, probably to counter potentially higher future defaults and to match increasing rates in the overall market.

Default Rates. You can see all the stats on existing LendingClub loans here. Up to this point, I have only investing in top-grade “A” loans. Out of 332 A loans, only 2 have been late since they started in June 2007. That’s a 0.6% late rate, with no defaults yet. Across all their loans, they have had a default rate of less than 3%. This includes a few loans that were of slightly lower quality than their current minimum requirements.

Looking at the overall late and default rates as compared to credit grades, it would appear the “sweet spot” is currently B and C grade loans. However, I personally still like minimal risk and plan on sticking mainly to A grade loans.

Finally, it is interesting to note that out of the $23 million of issued loans, there was also $199 million of “declined” loans. I’m not sure if this is due to rejection by LendingClub, or simply prospective lenders deciding that the loans were unsatisfactory. It also could be due to a lack of funds by lenders, so only the “best” loans were funded.

Eligibility. After the SEC filing, you must now meet certain minimum income and net worth requirements. You must also be a resident of on these 25 states (new states are added as they are approved):

California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Louisiana, Minnesota, Mississippi, Montana, New Hampshire, Nevada, New York, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Utah, Virginia, Washington, Wisconsin, West Virginia, and Wyoming.

Liquidity. All loans you take on can now be sold on a secondary market at FOLIOfn, so if you need your money back it is possible. As an existing lender, I had to fill out some additional information, but my application was approved in a day and I can now view a listing of loans that people want to sell. FOLIOfn charges the seller a 1% trading fee.

Fees. Lenders pay a 1% service charge on all interest payments. Due to reasons that I haven’t worked out, this reduces the APR by less than 1%.

My Experience

In general, my use of LendingClub has been limited to some experimental investing. I like the idea and I like trying out new financial services, but as I mentioned, I’m also very risk-averse. My loans have to have an A-grade (I choose them myself and don’t use LendingMatch). Also, they have to outline a clear plan for repayment. My main problem so far is a lack of such high quality loans. I’ve only funded about 8 loans so far, but the volume seems to be picking up. I’ve been earning about 7% (8% minus fees) with no lates or defaults. The movement of money back and forth between my bank is smooth, just like with an online bank. I only wish there was an “instant funding” feature, as I don’t like to keep idle cash sitting there, but I like the ability to fund attractive loans quickly before they fill up.

In fact, although I usually don’t care about this sort of thing, yesterday I used their loan map mashup and actually found a loan by a local store that I have shopped at before. After reading it over, I am now moving some funds in to help fund that loan. Should be interesting.

How are your experiences with Lending Club?

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Prosper P2P Lending Update #2: Scary Graph and Stats

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I was trying to run some more recent numbers to update my most recent concerns regarding person-to-person loans at Prosper.com. Essentially I was wondering if the loan performance would continually get worse over time. I was curious because it’s one thing to advertise 8-12% returns when the loans are new, but what really matters is the performance at the end of the 3-year term.

While trying unsuccessfully to churn those numbers, I ran across this related chart from the very analytical Prosper lender Fred93’s blog. The graph is essentially % of loans defaulted vs. loan age. Fred93 explains further:

These charts show statistics for the performance of all prosper.com loans. Each curve represents the set of loans that were created in one calendar month. The vertical axis is the fraction of those loans that have “gone bad”, in other words are 1 month late or worse (up to and including default). The horizontal axis is now days since month of loan origination. All data comes from Prosper.com’s performance web page.

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If you look out one year from origination (ie 360 days) you will see that about 20% of Prosper’s loans have gone bad. You can also see that this is remarkably consistent from month to month (ie the different curves). One can only conclude that the default rate of Prosper loans is in the neighborhood of 20% per year. Loans originating after Feb’07 are going bad at a slightly lower rate, probably because Prosper increased the minimum credit score required for a Prosper loan at that time.

I learned also that he makes these conclusions because (1) historically over 85% of Prosper loans that reach 1 month late eventually go into default, and (2) the recovery rate after being sent to collections is terribly low. Together, you have his statement that ~20% of loans go into default each year. For a three-year loan, that ain’t good!

The slope (default rate) does seem to be slightly lower for the newest loans, but what concerns me the most is the constant linear deterioration of loans. This confirms my fear that loan performance consistently gets worse as the loan ages.

Now, I know this chart doesn’t tell the whole story, but I do think P2P lending is still very new and has a lot of growing pains to overcome. For borrowers, it can be a great deal. But as much as I want to be grabbing some solid returns this way, I’m still wary of committing significant money given this information.

(I haven’t found similar numbers for competitor LendingClub yet. They are still young, but they seem to be doing better in defaults so far. I’m waiting for more loan data to accumulate.)

Related P2P Lending Posts

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  • Lending Club P2P Initial Review, $25 Bonus Promotion
  • Update #1: Will Returns Drop As Defaults Increase Over Time?
  • Prosper.com Person-to-Person Lending Review, Part 1: First Looks
  • Prosper.com Person-to-Person Lending Review, Part 2: The Numbers

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Easy Money: Get Paid $115 To Try These Financial Services

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I can’t stop the stock market from tumbling any further, but here’s a quick roundup of promotions by companies willing to pay you to try out their services. None of these listed require even a credit check. Additional information can be found through the links provided.

  • LendingClub $25 Bonus. Just sign up as a peer-to-peer lender and you’ll get $25 in your account, just link your bank account. If you deposit $1,000 you’ll get $50. More details here.
  • RevolutionMoneyExchange $25 Bonus. Also no initial deposit required to try this money-transfer service. More details here.
  • TextPayMe $5 Bonus. No deposit required. You can pay people via text message with this service. More details here.
  • eBates $10 Bonus. eBates offers rebates on online store purchases. After your first purchase of any amount, you’ll get a $10 bonus. Or you can simply sign-up for a free trial of Netflix through eBates and get another $18. Just remember to cancel in time. More details here.
  • Prosper $25 Bonus. Also a peer-to-peer lender. You’ll need to make a loan of $50 to receive your $25. More details here.
  • Capital One 360 $25 Bonus. One of the earliest online-only savings accounts, Capital One 360 will pay you $25 immediately if your initial deposit is at least $250.

I have gotten all of the bonuses above successfully except for the Prosper one, as I had signed up before the promotion started. I have also gotten several $100 bonuses from these credit cards, although applying will require a credit check.

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Lending Club: $50 Bonus + 5% Of Loan Amount If You Lend $5,000+

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Wow, here’s an interesting promotion from person-to-person lender Lending Club. They are currently offering a 5% cash bonus if you lend $5,000 or more by February 3, 2008 for both new and existing lenders on top of their $25/$50 sign-up bonus. Here are the details from their announcement:

You will qualify for the bonus by lending $5,000 or more to borrowers between December 14th, 2007 and February 3rd, 2008 (at 11:59PM Pacific time). Your bonus will be 5% of the amount you lend.

For example, if you lend $7,500 Lending Club will credit your Lending Club account with $7,500 * 5% or $375. Funds count as lent once a portfolio (or portfolios) is submitted during the aforementioned eligibility period. The loans do not have to be issued by February 3rd to qualify.

We will notify you of the amount of your bonus by the end of day, Friday, February 8th, 2008, and your account will be credited with your lending bonus by Friday, February 15th, 2008. No special sign-up or tracking is required ? we will run reports on the system to determine bonuses. Feel free to email us at lender.offer@lendingclub.com to ask about your bonus.

[…] Lenders can each earn a maximum payout of $20,000 (if they lend $400,000).

A 5% bonus definitely grabbed my interest again after making a few initial test loans. If you haven’t already, check out my LendingClub review to learn more about their setup for person-to-person lending.

At first I got all excited since banks are only paying 5% interest themselves, but then I remembered that LendingClub loans are spread out over 3 years, so it’s not like you are getting a 5% interest bonus each year (that would be sweet!). Instead, 5% spread out over 3 years is like adding roughly an additional 1.65% annual interest to the existing rate set by LendingClub. (Actually, since the 5% is given upfront, it would actually boost your returns even more.) But remember, these are unsecured loans similar to credit cards, and there is a risk of principal loss. Is that cushion worth putting in $5,000 in?

So far all of my existing loans with LendingClub are rated a safe A3-A4 (7.75 to 8.07%). Given that their minimum allowable credit score is 640, and their credit grades run all the way from A1, A2, A3 to G3, G4, G5, I would estimate that such people have credit scores well over 700 as well as other positive criteria like a reasonable debt-to-income ratio. Therefore, I would love so see my return increase to a 9.4 to 10.72% return on high-quality loans. With $5,000 available to spread across 200 loans ($25 each), that would also smooth out the default risk from a few bad loans.

Lending $5,000 for 3 years is a lot of money, but this is the best person-to-person lending deal I’ve found. Hmm… very tempting!

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Lending Club Review: Free $25 To Start, P2P Borrowing

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Next up in the person-to-person lending showcase is Lending Club. I recently joined up because they were offering the carrot of $25 sign-on bonus, and I was curious to see how they differentiate themselves from Prosper Lending (review, $25 bonus). As usual, this overview will primarily be from the perspective of a potential lender/investor in these unsecured consumer loans.

Lending Standards
LendingClub only allows borrowers with a minimum credit score of 640. Prosper initially had no bottom, but later raised it’s floor to a 520 credit score, which by itself eliminated 45% of their loan listings! So lots of subprime action over at Prosper, but very little over at LendingClub. Some people may disagree on whether this a plus or a minus.

Setting Interest Rates For Loans
With Prosper, prospective lenders bid on loans in an eBay format. Essentially, all the lenders as a whole set their own market rate. But with LendingClub, they do all of it for you.

The mechanism for setting a fair interest rate is complex: it involves a proper assessment of the risk associated with each loan (based on the borrower’s credit history, current situation, income, debt and other factors), an understanding of the volatility associated with each level of risk, and a proper reward for that volatility. We have access to large amounts of information and historical data from the credit bureaus, which puts us in a unique situation to set attractive, fair and equitable interest rates. Rates also depend on the amount of the loan (with larger loans bearing higher rates).

Each loan request made by a borrower is attributed a Lending Club grade ranging from A1 to G5. Here are some sample corresponding loan rates:
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